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Some fans are easily pleased, but look,  in the 3 years BR has been here he has made a lot of promises to the Owners, he hasn't kept a single one of them:  LFC have no trophies, no EPL title(s), a complete and utter shambles of a CL stint, and wait for it, more than a quarter of a Billion pounds wasted away. No return on investment at all, and so many failed promises. So some who says that other clubs have more money then LFC doesn't wash....also, I don't care about other LFC managers of the past because that is the past, with BR, this is the here and now. He needs to go.  He has brought in the players that he wanted, the Committee that he is part of, have provided other names in the fray, but he turned them all down. So to replace one player, he brings in 6 or 7 which was totally not needed. He began a rebuilding programme because one player left, go figure....a rebuild was not required. The Owners have invested heavily and have taken on more debt to cover cost for the stadium expansion, hence naming rights to the stands will be offered.

BR promised the Owners challenge for the EPL and CL this season. The Owners have spent money it didn't actually have (taken on debt) to support him over the 3 seasons to achieve success on the field, to this end, BR has utterly and completely and utterly failed to deliver. So the question  is, how many more seasons to give BR and his so called "long term plan" (not that he has one), to allow it to come to magical conclusion?

LFC didn't need Lallana, Balo, the list goes on. BR is great at going to a candy store.

Seriously, whichever way you look at it, BR has totally failed at LFC. And one example, buying players like, Ilori, Alberto and Aspas etc,  who have not been seen in a LFC shirt, essentially, not playing those players for nigh on a year, then giving them their marching orders (i.e. loaning them), because no other club is willing to buy them is totally rubbish business and management on BR's part.

I won't mention any names because one thing leads to another, anyway, the £25m BR spent on Balo and Lambert, could have been spent on a far better and very good striker/forward. BR actually ignored/did not take into account the massive signing on fee and crazy agent fees for Balo.  But he didn't listen to the advice he was given, then panics and buys bottom of the heap rubbish.

BR could have brought Lovren the season before for much less but chose to wait a season (who knows why), then pays over the odds for him.

Another example, Pedro was a available, and LFC could have had him, but instead, BR chose Marko. LFC could have got Pedro for about the same price.
BR does not trust the youth. Regarding Ibe, you know, he was forced to play him. If it were up to BR, Ibe would have been moved on and replaced by 'potential' from spain or italy etc. The powers that be told him to start playing academy players as he promised. Ibe was sent on loan countless times, until BR was told this Jan that he would not get a striker unless he sold someone (due to FFP) and to make use of the players at the Acedemy. Hence,  Ibe is recalled by BR and put in the first team to prove a point, however, BR was told that Ibe was ready last summer and should be playing. Ibe was a first team player for Wycombe and BR held him back in his progression by loaning him out needlessly.

Flanno was going to be offloaded because BR didn't think he was good enough, only to bring him on becuase injuries to others forced him too. BR really doesn't have sound judgement.  The list of players from the academy he should be playing/bringing through is endless, but BR doesn't trust them so what chances do they have under him. Some may have had cameos, but that is it it, never to be heard of again.

Some that say that its hard to attract players for one reason or whatever, the thing is all clubs this issue!. THe fundamental thing here is that the invested money has been so very poorly spent by BR. This has given LFC FFP issues and major debt

Interesting read, I shudder to be reminded of how much dross we've signed since we last won the Premiership 25 years ago today.

Express on Line

Liverpool's wasted £770MILLION - the money squandered trying to bring the title to Anfield

When John Barnes dispatched a penalty beyond QPR’s David Seaman to help seal Liverpool’s 18th league title, the air was thick not only with celebration but complacency, too.

Anfield was not even full to witness a 2-1 victory for Kenny Dalglish’s side that proved enough to propel them to another title triumph as news of Aston Villa’s draw at home with Norwich filtered through.

As the ground emptied that Saturday afternoon on April 28, 1990, Liverpool’s supporters drifted home with a swagger that betrayed the sense they expected to be honouring their heroes next season... and the season after that. It is exactly 25 years today since that last triumph.

There has been a memorable Champions League success and UEFA Cup glory, FA Cup and League Cup baubles, but for an entire generation of fans the wait for the 19th title goes on, just as the money spent on trying to claim what has become the Holy Grail goes up. So far the figure stands at an incredible £770,340,000 lavished on 190 players, some of them youngsters but many others who were supposed to represent the final piece in a jigsaw that continues to be incomplete.

A hard-core of Liverpool supporters will boycott tonight’s Premier League match at Hull City in protest at rocketing ticket prices in the knowledge that the amount of money spent on players’ wages in that time will take the figure crashing through the £1billion barrier.

When the unwanted milestone was flagged up to Brendan Rodgers, the man charged with fulfilling owners Fenway Sports Group’s promise they would bring the title back to Anfield, all he could do was to say the right things.

Asked if he still believed he could end the drought, the Liverpool manager said: “Absolutely. When I came in here it was a long way off. The club was eighth and you’d never have even talked about it. It’s a mark of how the club has moved forward, that there’s such disappointment that we weren’t challenging this year. Of course it’s been disappointing not to have had a challenge this year. But I have absolutely no doubt it will happen.”

Liverpool came close under Roy Evans’ stewardship and, of course, last season under Rodgers, but the landscape has changed dramatically in the intervening years with Roman Abramovich’s billions transforming Chelsea’s fortunes and Manchester City turned into contenders by the money-flushed sheikhs of Abu Dhabi.

Arsenal, too, have been shunted aside in the sea-shift and, as Jose Mourinho revelled in pointing out on Sunday, their own wait to recapture former glories now stretches beyond a decade. Still, Chelsea’s success this season will come with Mourinho having carefully played the transfer market, spending less (£111.6m primarily on £27m Cesc Fabregas and £32m Diego Costa) than he recouped (£113m largely through £40m David Luiz and £28m Romelu Lukaku).

The transfer power of Liverpool’s rivals has to be factored in, the quality of the managers who followed Kenny Dalglish, too, but often it feels an easy excuse to deflect from Liverpool’s own excesses.

Liverpool’s time on the outside looking in has undoubtedly been prolonged by wrong turns in the transfer market. “It is difficult, but you can’t just accept that,” said Rodgers of the resources that his rivals boast.

“It’s something you have to continue to fight. Where we are at now is probably par for where we are at. We can’t accept that. We have to continue to find ways to develop players, work to the idea of how the owners want to work here and find that way to break that. That’s something that I’m very hungry to do.”

Rodgers conceded yesterday his own reign has, in some respects, come full circle with a lack of goals once again the over-riding problem that has seen Liverpool regress from runners-up to also-rans this term.

Rodgers – who will again be without Daniel Sturridge and must check on the fitness of Steven Gerrard at the KC Stadium when Liverpool will seek to close on fourth-placed Manchester United – believes strategic signings are needed this summer rather than a major overhaul.

“It’s small in terms of what we need, but it’s key to how we can function. If you look at our goals when I first came in here I talked about the need to improve the goal tally, and we did that.

“And now we’re back at the same situation again where I need to improve and we need to find a way to do that. If we can do that there’s a greater base there and foundation in the team. It will be a big summer for us to find the right type of player that can come in and do that.”

Alas, Liverpool have heard that sentiment all before.

1990: Ronny Rosenthal Standard Liege £1,000,000 June 1990, Tony Cousins Dundalk £70,000 October 1990, Don Hutchison Hartlepool £175,000 November 1990.

1991: Jimmy Carter Millwall £800,000 January 1991, Jamie Redknapp Bournemouth £350,000 January 1991, David Speedie Coventry £675,000 January 1991, Mark Wright Derby £2,200,000 July 1991, Dean Saunders Derby £2,900,000 July 1991, Mark Walters Rangers £1,250,000 August 1991, Rob Jones Crewe £300,000 October 1991, Michael Thomas Arsenal £1,500,000 December 1991.

1992: Istvan Kozma Dunfermilne £300,000 February 1992, Lee Jones Wrexham £300,000 March 1992, Scott Paterson Cove Rangers £15,000 March 1992, David James Watford £1,000,000 July 1992, Paul Stewart Tottenham £2,300,000 July 1992, Torben Piechnik FC Copenhagen £500,000 September 1992, Stig Inge Bjørnebye Rosenborg £600,000 December 1992.

1993: Nigel Clough Nottingham Forest £2,275,000 June 1993, Neil Ruddock Tottenham £2,500,000 July 1993, Julian Dicks West Ham Player Exchange September 1993.

1994: Mark Gayle Crewe On Loan February 1994, Michael Stensgaard Hvidovre £400,000 June 1994, Phil Babb Coventry £3,600,000 September 1994, John Scales Wimbledon £3,500,000 September 1994.

1995: Mark Kennedy Millwall £1,500,000 March 1995, Alec Chamberlain Sunderland Loan March 1995, Stan Collymore Nottingham Forest £8,500,000 July 1995, Stephen Pears Middlesbrough Free August 1995, Jason McAteer Bolton £4,500,000 September 1995.

1996: Patrik Berger Borussia Dortmund £3,250,000 August 1996, Nicky Rizzo Sidney Olympic Free September 1996.

1997: Bjørn Tore Kvarme Free Transfer Free January 1997, Øyvind Leonhardsen Wimbledon £3,500,0002 June 1997, Paul Ince Inter Milan £4,200,000 July 1997, Danny Murphy Crewe £1,500,000 July 1997, Karl-Heinz Riedle Borussia Dortmund £1,800,000 July 1997, Jørgen Nielsen Hvidovre £400,000 August 1997, Haukur I. Gudnason Keflavik £150,000 December 1997, Brad Friedel Columbus Crew £1,000,000 December 1997.

1998: Sean Dundee Karlsruhe £1,800,000 June 1998, Steve Staunton Free Transfer July 1998, Vegard Heggem Rosenborg £3,500,000 July 1998, Jean Michel Ferri Istanbulspor £1,500,000 November 1998.

1999: Frode Kippe Lillestrø £700,000 January 1999, Rigobert Song Salernitana £2,600,000 January 1999, Djimi Traoré Laval £550,000 February 1999, Sami Hyypia Willem II £2,500,000 May 1999, Vladimir Smicer Lens £3,750,000 May 1999, Titi Camara Marseille £2,600,000 June 1999, Stephane Henchoz Blackburn £3,500,000 June 1999, Sander Westerveld Vitesse Arnhem £4,000,000 June 1999, Erik Meijer Free Transfer Free July 1999, Didi Hamann Newcastle £8,000,000 July 1999.

2000: Emile Heskey Leicester £11,000,000 March 2000, Bernard Diomede Auxerre £3,000,000 June 2000, Gary McAllister Free Transfer Free July 2000, Pegguy Arphexad Free Transfer July 2000, Markus Babbel Free Transfer July 2000, Nick Barmby Everton £6,000,000 July 2000, Christian Ziege Middlesbrough £5,500,000 August 2000, Gregory Vignal Montpellier £500,000 September 2000, Daniel Sjolund West Ham £1,000,000 November 2000, Igor Biscan Dynamo Zagreb £5,500,000 December 2000.

2001: Jari Litmanen Barcelona Free January 2001, John Arne Riise Monaco £4,000,000 June 2001, Milan Baros Banik Ostrav £3,200,000 July 2001, Chris Kirkland Coventry £6,000,000 August 2001, Jerzy Dudek Feyenoord £4,850,000 August 2001, Nicolas Anelka Paris St Germain On Loan December 2001.

2002: Abel Xavier Everton £750,000 January 2002, Bruno Cheyrou Lille £3,700,000 May 2002, El Hadji Diouf Lens £10,000,000 June 2002, Alou Diarra Bayern Munich Free July 2002, Patrice Luzi Free Transfer July 2002, Salif Diao Sedan £4,700,000 August 2002.

2003: Anthony Le Tallec Le Havre £1,500,000 July 2003, Florent Sinama-Pongolle Le Havre £1,500,000 July 2003, Steve Finnan Fulham £3,500,000 July 2003, Harry Kewell Leeds £5,000,000 July 2003, Carl Medjani Saint-Étienne Free August 2003.

2004: Paul Jones Southampton On Loan January 2004, Djibril Cissé Auxerre £14,500,000 July 2004, Josemi Rey Malaga £2,000,000 July 2004, Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000 August 2004, Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 August 2004, Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 August 2004.

2005: Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free January 2005, Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 January 2005, Scott Carson Leeds £1,000,000 January 2005, Bolo Zenden Free Transfer July 2005, Pepe Reina Villareal £6,000,000 July 2005, Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 July 2005, Momo Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 July 2005, Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 July 2005, Miki Roque Lleida Unknown August 2005, Godwin Antwi Real Zaragoza Unknown August 2005, Jack Hobbs Lincoln £750,000 August 2005, Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000 August 2005, Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000 October 2005.

2006: Paul Anderson Hull Player Exchange January 2006, Jan Kromkamp Villareal Player Exchange January 2006, David Martin MK Dons £250,000 January 2006, Daniel Agger Brøndby £5,800,000 January 2006, Robbie Fowler Manchester City Free January 2006, Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 July 2006, Gabriel Paletta Club Atlético Banfield £2,000,000 July 2006, Fábio Aurélio Free Transfer July 2006, Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 July 2006, Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 August 2006, Nabil El Zhar Saint-Étienne £200,000 August 2006.

2007: Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 January 2007, Daniele Padelli Sampdoria On Loan January 2007, Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed January 2007, Francisco Durán Malaga £66,000 January 2007, Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo La Coruna £2,500,000 January 2007, Lucas Leiva Gremio £5,000,000 May 2007, Krisztián Németh MTK Hungaria Undisclosed May 2007, Mikel Domínguez Athletic Bilbao £270,000 June 2007, Sebastian Leto Club Atlético Lanús £1,800,000 July 2007, Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 July 2007, Andriy Voronin Free Transfer July 2007, Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 July 2007, Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 July 2007, Damien Plessis Lyon Undisclosed July 2007, Dani Pacheco Barcelona Undisclosed July 2007, David Amoo Millwall Unknown July 2007, Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed August 2007, Emiliano Insúa Boca Juniors £1,675,000 August 2007, Lauri Dalla Valle JIPPO £600,000 November 2007.

2008: Martin Skrtel Zenit Saint Petersburg £6,500,000 January 2008, Javier Mascherano GSA & MSL £18,600,000 February 2008, Philipp Degen Free Transfer July 2008, Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 July 2008, Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 July 2008, David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 July 2008, Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 July 2008, Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 August 2008, Peter Gulacsi MTK Hungaria Unknown August 2008.

2009: Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 June 2009, Alberto Aquilani Roma £17,100,000 August 2009, Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 August 2009, Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 September 2009.

2010: Maxi Rodriguez Atletico Madrid Free January 2010, Raheem Sterling QPR £500,000 February 2010, Jonjo Shelvey Charlton £1,700,000 May 2010, Milan Jovanovic Standard Liege Free July 2010, Joe Cole Free Transfer Free July 2010, Danny Wilson Rangers £2,000,000 July 2010, Fábio Aurélio Free Transfer July 2010, Christian Poulsen Juventus £4,550,000 August 2010, Brad Jones Middlesbrough £2,300,000 August 2010, Raul Meireles Porto £11,500,000 August 2010, Paul Konchesky Fulham £3,500,000 August 2010, Suso Cadiz Unknown August 2010.

2011: Luis Suarez Ajax £22,800,000 January 2011, Andy Carroll Newcastle £35,000,000 January 2011, Jordan Henderson Sunderland £16,000,000 June 2011, Charlie Adam Blackpool £6,750,000 July 2011, Alexander Doni Roma Free July 2011, Stewart Downing Aston Villa £18,500,000 July 2011, Jose Enrique Newcastle £6,000,000 August 2011, Sebastian Coates Nacional £4,900,000 August 2011, Craig Bellamy Manchester City Free August 2011, Jordon Ibe Wycombe £500,000 December 2011.

2012: João Carlos Teixeira Sporting Lisbon £830,000 January 2012, Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 July 2012, Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 August 2012, Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 August 2012, Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan August 2012, Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 August 2012.

2013: Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 January 2013, Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 January 2013, Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 June 2013, Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 June 2013, Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 June 2013, Kolo Touré Free Transfer July 2013, Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan August 2013, Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 September 2013, Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 September 2013, Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan September 2013.

2014: Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 June 2014, Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 July 2014, Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 July 2014, Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 July 2014, Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 July 2014, Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 July 2014, Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan August 2014, Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 August 2014, Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 August 2014.

Three that worked...

Luis Suarez: £22.8m from Ajax in 2011 – seldom could you take your eyes off Suarez and not simply because of the controversies that engulfed him. Sold for £75m.

Xabi Alonso: £10.5m from Real Sociedad in 2004 - was crucial in the team that pushed Manchester United close in 2009. Sold for £30m.

Sami Hyypia: £2.5m from Willem II in 1999 - proof that bargains have been available, he was signed after former Liverpool chief executive Peter Robinson was tipped off.

Three that didn’t...

Andy Carroll: £35m from Newcastle in 2011 – signed on the day Fernando Torres left for Chelsea. Injuries hampered him before Brendan Rodgers quickly ushered him out of the door.

Alberto Aquilani: £17.1m from AS Roma in 2009 - brought in to replace Xabi Alonso, injuries meant he was seldom seen before returning to Italy.

Christian Ziege: £5.5m from Middlesbrough in 2000 - Liverpool battled in the High Court to sign the German and were later fined £20,000 for an illegal approach. The defender did not prove worth the hassle.

He really does my head in. When he arrived we were a long way from winning the title but in only his second year we came second. Is he patting himself on the back there or not? I can't tell. Because this year, with no Suarez, the injury prone Sturridge and the unrequired Balo and Borini making up the numbers we've come nowhere near. So what progress are we actually looking at here? His ways of praising himself are becoming more and more cryptic by the day.

Never mind though lads, title challenge next season!

RedAnt » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:31 am wrote:He really does my head in. When he arrived we were a long way from winning the title but in only his second year we came second. Is he patting himself on the back there or not? I can't tell. Because this year, with no Suarez, the injury prone Sturridge and the unrequired Balo and Borini making up the numbers we've come nowhere near. So what progress are we actually looking at here? His ways of praising himself are becoming more and more cryptic by the day.

Never mind though lads, title challenge next season!

Tactically inept mate. The amount of sh!t that he spouts to the media is embarrassing.  He sounds to me like he's fearing for his job and this is a cry for "give me another 12 months".  Not only are we a million miles away in personnell but we are also a million miles away tactically.

Kopite-Jud » Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:10 am wrote:

RedAnt » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:31 am wrote:He really does my head in. When he arrived we were a long way from winning the title but in only his second year we came second. Is he patting himself on the back there or not? I can't tell. Because this year, with no Suarez, the injury prone Sturridge and the unrequired Balo and Borini making up the numbers we've come nowhere near. So what progress are we actually looking at here? His ways of praising himself are becoming more and more cryptic by the day.

Never mind though lads, title challenge next season!

Tactically inept mate. The amount of sh!t that he spouts to the media is embarrassing.  He sounds to me like he's fearing for his job and this is a cry for "give me another 12 months".  Not only are we a million miles away in personnell but we are also a million miles away tactically.

You're right mate, and as you (I think) said elsewhere a lot of matches, such as those vs the top four, are tactical matches. Manager vs manager. Apparently BR was a tactical genius not so long ago. It shows, doesn't it? Villa, WBA, Arsenal, Man U to name a few recent ones.

Woof there's no point dragging up the past mate, you and I and many others had to live through every moment of every frustrating game in those long years.

What folks are correctly focusing on is the strategy LAST SUMMER when we knew we were losing Suarez, we had the money and we decided not to replace him preferring to buy 4x mediocre players. In a nutshell THAT was the key mistake and by not replacing GERRARD we stand to make the same mistake this summer. If so, then that will be BR's death knell as without a key play maker and central midfield player we will be found out and come in 8th - 10th next season.

They can still turn this round but to make top 4..... we need 4x top players, centre back, midfield, striker x2. Same as we were saying this time last season.

I've beeb pretty much Sunshine and Lollipops in my comments for this team since I joined this board.  Ithink it's been like 7 years.

Right now.  Those positive thoughts are gone.  We brought f*cking Rickie f*cking Lambert to try to change the game.our keeper was the man of the match in a game we lost.  Our engine room is fine...except it is missing an engine.

Glen f*cking Johnson is our Left back.

So disgusted right now.  I punched a hole in the wall after the match and then looked back at the tv screen and see players shaking hands and swapping shirts.

I actually think our season petering out with a whimper is a good thing. Maybe the penny will finally drop with the powers that be that we need to sign marquee players.
John Aldridge makes a good point into tonight's Echo, he said given Barcelona wanted to sign Suarez he wonders how the club didn't manage to get Sanchez in part-ex. As he said we held all the cards but managed to lose the hand.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:10 pm wrote:I actually think our season petering out with a whimper is a good thing. Maybe the penny will finally drop with the powers that be that we need to sign marquee players.
John Aldridge makes a good point into tonight's Echo, he said given Barcelona wanted to sign Suarez he wonders how the club didn't manage to get Sanchez in part-ex. As he said we held all the cards but managed to lose the hand.

He wanted to go to Arsenal and Suarez wanted Barca. Not sure what we could have done in that situation.  End of the day can't hold a gun to a players head and make him join you. Only way I could see him joining us if we threw much more cash at him than Arsenal but obviously we don't have deep pockets like the Chelsea and Man City's of this world.

Doeboy » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:17 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:10 pm wrote:I actually think our season petering out with a whimper is a good thing. Maybe the penny will finally drop with the powers that be that we need to sign marquee players.
John Aldridge makes a good point into tonight's Echo, he said given Barcelona wanted to sign Suarez he wonders how the club didn't manage to get Sanchez in part-ex. As he said we held all the cards but managed to lose the hand.

He wanted to go to Arsenal and Suarez wanted Barca. Not sure what we could have done in that situation.  End of the day can't hold a gun to a players head and make him join you. Only way I could see him joining us if we threw much more cash at him than Arsenal but obviously we don't have deep pockets like the Chelsea and Man City's of this world.

I think Aldo was saying we should have played hard ball with Barcelona and walked away from the deal.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:21 pm wrote:

Doeboy » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:17 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:10 pm wrote:I actually think our season petering out with a whimper is a good thing. Maybe the penny will finally drop with the powers that be that we need to sign marquee players.
John Aldridge makes a good point into tonight's Echo, he said given Barcelona wanted to sign Suarez he wonders how the club didn't manage to get Sanchez in part-ex. As he said we held all the cards but managed to lose the hand.

He wanted to go to Arsenal and Suarez wanted Barca. Not sure what we could have done in that situation.  End of the day can't hold a gun to a players head and make him join you. Only way I could see him joining us if we threw much more cash at him than Arsenal but obviously we don't have deep pockets like the Chelsea and Man City's of this world.

I think Aldo was saying we should have played hard ball with Barcelona and walked away from the deal.

Think that would have been very difficult to do in my opinion. Always felt Suarez signed his last contract with us with some agreement he would get his move to Barca and we were in effect protecting the value of an asset.

Unfortunately players and agents hold much more power these days and long gone are the days where clubs can dig their heels and keep hold of players, especially when the likes of Barca or Madrid come calling.

Obviously most of the players have skills. We know this because we have seen them at various times through the season, although not always together at the same time.
It looks like the manager has lost the players as there was nothing on that pitch tonight, no heart, no belief, no passion, no balls. I cant wait for the season to end now and hopefully when Gerrard, Balotelli, Johnson and Stirling are gone he will be able to mould his own team who believe in him.
At the moment they dont give a shiny sh'ite

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:21 pm wrote:

Doeboy » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:17 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:10 pm wrote:I actually think our season petering out with a whimper is a good thing. Maybe the penny will finally drop with the powers that be that we need to sign marquee players.
John Aldridge makes a good point into tonight's Echo, he said given Barcelona wanted to sign Suarez he wonders how the club didn't manage to get Sanchez in part-ex. As he said we held all the cards but managed to lose the hand.

He wanted to go to Arsenal and Suarez wanted Barca. Not sure what we could have done in that situation.  End of the day can't hold a gun to a players head and make him join you. Only way I could see him joining us if we threw much more cash at him than Arsenal but obviously we don't have deep pockets like the Chelsea and Man City's of this world.

I think Aldo was saying we should have played hard ball with Barcelona and walked away from the deal.

FFS Aldo must has been reading my posts. 

It is what I have been saying all along.

If Sanchez was keen on joining our main competitor then we should NOT have sold Suarez to Barcelona.

It's that f**king simple.

When I started this thread, I must admit I felt a bit guilty that I was putting the boot into the club I have loved since I could remember. In the back of my mind there was a little hope that things would change for the better before the end of the season.

Am afraid I was clutching at straws. after tonight's debacle any faith I have left has truly gone. So who's to blame for this? FSG, maybe but I remember when they bought us I was so happy because was were heading for total meltdown and possibly administration due to them 2 legalised gangsters, who I hope they both die a very slow and panics death KARMA.

So I think FSG after saving us, don't have a clue to how a English football club is run. They are partly to blame. Rodgers YES this Billy bulls.iter after getting lucky last season he thought he was untouchable. This season he has been found out and basically he is well out of his depth 22 million spent in the summer on WHAT?

The player's YES apart from Gerrard, Coutiniho and Sturridge are a bunch of overrated, overpaid useless b.astards. Something is seriously wrong when a 20 year old thinks he can hold the club to ransom after being offered 100k a week is taking the proverbial. If it was up to me I would put him in the Ressies until the summer and sell him to the highest bidder he won't be missed. The rest of them must have no self respect whatsoever. And the next time I hear "I was a boyhood LFC fan" bulls.hit I will scream. Shankly must be turning in his grave

I don't think many would disagree with you there Dunnie.