only me » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:23 am wrote:How much goals did DS score? could have we done without him? We scored 100+ goals not because of Suarez but because of a system which created many attempts on goal and a system which gives a great striker an opportunity to score, System created by the MANAGER. LS was great for Liverpool but it wasn't a one man show he had a great supporting cast around him and a Manager which setup the tactics and game plan.
Regarding this season i'm not even going to address it as it's still early days and such decisive submissive comments frankly make me sick. Fans with an attention span of a mice on LSD are pathetic.
You're clearly blinded by your love of Rodgers and to compare Sturridge to Suarez is absolutely completely laughable, deluded and the words of a fantasist who has clearly never played the game at any level or even been to anfield once to watch a game. I suggest you go back to supporting your local side lad instead of calling people who've spent thousands of £££ of their hard earned on following the team around. "Fans" like you make me sick, glory hunting whoppers who don't even know where Liverpool is and don't know what local pride is all about.
Sturridge last season of course contributed superbly. His link up play with Luis and his goals were invaluable. But to compare the two as you have done is quite frankly pathetic. Liverpool last season would have adapted without Sturridge, the 5-0 away at Spurs was a game he didn't play in for example, one which was regarded by many as our best performance last season. However, when Luis was out of the side we didn't perform in anything like the same mannor or with anything like the same dominance in games. Infact, I can remember us without him looking short of idea's, lacking in creativety and lacking in a player who makes the ball stick upfront, yes we won a few early games 1-0, but we were by no means dominant in any of those games and we certainly didn't create chance after chance, as we did with Luis in the side.
You point out that we scored over 100 goals last season, which was correct, we did. Suarez scored 31 of those and was directly responsible in terms of assists for around 15. Then add all the moves he started by winning a ball, or playing a decisive pass to somone who could create a goal for a team mate and I'd say Suarez was responsible for a good 60 of the 100 goals we scored. Not to mention when he makes the ball stick upfront rather than it coming straight back at you saving goals or the fact he often instigated pressure on the opposition defence.
The thing is, you then you bang on about the system, but the reality is that Suarez was that good he could play in any system in the world and be effective. He was even effective from long balls and crosses into the box... or as a left winger in a front three... Granted, we played a certain way that helped get the very best from him, but to suggest it was the system that created all these chances and goals is completely f*cking moronic and clueless. Great players make great teams, these days you will never see a great team without great or at least excellent players all over the pitch. A player like Ronaldo, Messi or Suarez can turn a decent team into a great team. They can help other players raise their games and they make a huge difference to believe, confidence and team play. At times last season we felt like we were going into matches a goal up because we had Luis. Much in the same way the Mancs did a few years ago when they had Rooney (in his prime) and Ronaldo.
Players like Sturridge, Henderson and Sterling were absolutely thriving off playing with Luis last season. You only have to watch England to see the difference he made to Liverpool as most of the england side were our players. England looked abject and devoid of ideas, because they only had Rooney and Lallana instead of Coutinho and Luis Suarez.
Sturridge used to clearly look up to Luis as the rest of the side did and followed suit. When you see a player like Suarez closing a defender down as a footballer, you wouldn't insult him by standing still, you follow suit. Sterling and Henderson didn't need much encouagement themselves to close people down, but when they had Suarez doing it, they obviously followed him, not to mention when Henderson and Sterling instigated it Suarez was also one to follow them as a return favour. The thing is, Sturridge isn't that type of player, but playing next to Sterling, Henderson and Luis made him do those things. Sturridge is very much a me, me, me type of player, which is fine if he's surrounded by team players, this season, his partner is also a me, me, me type. This season he won't work as hard and I think you'll see a lot less from Daniel.
Rodgers last season shown naivety with his tactics against Chelsea. He has also so far shown he's absolutely woeful with a cheque book. He inherrited Sterling and Suarez (our two best and most important players from last season) and so far the only signings he can claim have been worth the money and a success are Coutinho and Sturridge.
Tactically, at the moment we are a shambles. At times last season we were a shambles, however, we had a world beater to pull us out of the Sh*t, conceding 50 goals in a season is that of a mid table side, regardless of the system. Last season we had a world class attack with a world class player supported by two or three excellent players and a few good ones. Most sides in the premier league have good players. Most sides have the odd or a few excellent ones... most sides don't have a truely world class player. Thats the difference.
Rodgers is nothing more than an average manager. He proved it last sesaon when he blew the league in the Chelsea match. He's lost the only player he had who can make a difference in 30 odd games a season, now he's struggling again. 7th, 2nd because of one man and now where will we finish this season? I am struggling to see us getting into the top four.
