7_Kewell » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:29 pm wrote:Thought we should have a thread for our defence, seeing it generates so much debate...
Today I thought it looked a LOT better at the back, with a solid movement and constant communication. For sure, there were mistakes with Lovren and Sakho getting their position all wrong and both centre backs looking nervous..but it just felt like there was light at the end of the tunnel.
In the second half, we looked a lot more composed and all of our defenders and keeper were constantly talking. I also think Moreno is going to be a real superstar.
Clearly, Manquillo is an improvement over Johnson, but Flanno should be the starter for me as Manquillo is a long way off the finished article. Don’t get me wrong, Flanno is by no means the complete full back either, but he’s a few steps above the Spaniard. However, BR needs to pick his preferred CB pariing and get them working together. At the moment our centre backs look like strangers and only a run of 15—20 games will gel a CB paring.
woof woof ! » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:20 am wrote:So far, defensively I'm not totally convinced by Manquillo but it's still early days and my opinion may change once the lad has had time to settle. Moreno was sensational yesterday, his performance has more than atoned for the error he made against city. As for the CB's as many have said, it's gonna take game time for a new pairing to form a partnership, don't know what BR's choice will be when Skrtles' fit again but personally I'd like to see Lovren and Sakho given some kind of run together.
SouthCoastShankly » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:33 am wrote:woof woof ! » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:20 am wrote:So far, defensively I'm not totally convinced by Manquillo but it's still early days and my opinion may change once the lad has had time to settle. Moreno was sensational yesterday, his performance has more than atoned for the error he made against city. As for the CB's as many have said, it's gonna take game time for a new pairing to form a partnership, don't know what BR's choice will be when Skrtles' fit again but personally I'd like to see Lovren and Sakho given some kind of run together.
I'd be happy to see Sakho back on the bench.
He was an accident waiting to happen yesterday.
Mignolet pulled out a massive save against Chadli, after Sakho was caught ball watching. He also gave a couple of horrendous passes away.
woof woof ! » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:08 am wrote:Wasn't just Sakho that had dodgy moments yesterday SCS , Lovren also had his moments as did Gerrard. But I'll admit early on Sakho looked as though he was really going to cost us but he improved as the game went on. Sakho and Lovren will get it sorted if they're given time to gel.
SouthCoastShankly » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:33 am wrote:woof woof ! » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:20 am wrote:So far, defensively I'm not totally convinced by Manquillo but it's still early days and my opinion may change once the lad has had time to settle. Moreno was sensational yesterday, his performance has more than atoned for the error he made against city. As for the CB's as many have said, it's gonna take game time for a new pairing to form a partnership, don't know what BR's choice will be when Skrtles' fit again but personally I'd like to see Lovren and Sakho given some kind of run together.
I'd be happy to see Sakho back on the bench.
He was an accident waiting to happen yesterday.
Mignolet pulled out a massive save against Chadli, after Sakho was caught ball watching. He also gave a couple of horrendous passes away.
Ben Patrick » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:49 pm wrote:Woof not sure why Manquillo doesnt convince you defensively. I think he looks great defensively, it's the going forward and final third stuff I am not sure about yet.
But one v one he looks decent defending.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:40 am wrote:SouthCoastShankly » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:33 am wrote:woof woof ! » Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:20 am wrote:So far, defensively I'm not totally convinced by Manquillo but it's still early days and my opinion may change once the lad has had time to settle. Moreno was sensational yesterday, his performance has more than atoned for the error he made against city. As for the CB's as many have said, it's gonna take game time for a new pairing to form a partnership, don't know what BR's choice will be when Skrtles' fit again but personally I'd like to see Lovren and Sakho given some kind of run together.
I'd be happy to see Sakho back on the bench.
He was an accident waiting to happen yesterday.
Mignolet pulled out a massive save against Chadli, after Sakho was caught ball watching. He also gave a couple of horrendous passes away.
That was actually Lovren's fault, Adebayor was Sakho's man but for some reason Lovren came charging out and missed everything including the ball leaving a huge void behind him and his CB partner stranded.
Lovren is a good defender but he makes rash decisions, there's nothing wrong with being aggressive and trying to win every ball but sometimes he's got to temper that instinct by asking himself the question 'what happens if I don't win this ball?'
If there is no cover behind him he's better off just staying on his feet and jockeying the player until reinforcements arrive, once or twice yesterday he dived into tackles that he didn't make and against better players that would be a goal.
As the leader of our back line he should be cool, calm and collected, not succumbing to rushes of blood to the head every ten minutes.
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