algymoon » Thu May 19, 2016 8:40 am wrote:It is a disasters season on all counts, however somehow this is very much expected from BR players who they cannot produce top performances when it is most needed.
Despite all the hypes about this one game which it will bring glory to LFC, whereas so many people weren't really convinced about the true abilities of BR players to finish the task!. Majority of the players are below average especially in goal keeping and defence, which it was a major problem through out BR who brought those players whom they are useless, no matter how a good coach is trying to improve them!.. How many times Clyne & Moreno had made bad mistakes through out the whole season, and yet they are both never learned from it!!. I seriously think Klopp is mistaken to improve such players like, Moreno, Clyne, Mignolet, and the rest, and I am very sure if those players are to remain in team next season, we will be speaking about the same problem next year at round this time again.
As for the game, we really had no full backs who could defend and useless in going forward!, the result was bad defensive display which it is resulted to lose the game comfortably, it could have been worse.
This Sevilla team is the most weakest from previous two finals, however Liverpool was far worse than that, none-existing desire to preform well and win a cup final. The only players who they have tried their best were Can, and Sturridge, the rest were dreaming of being a World beater!!!, which it is typical of BR's players.
I am not so positive about the prospect of next season fortunes of Liverpool team achievement, as long as this existing squad of players remain the same!, unless there is a major clear out of the rubbish players the outcome of next season will be worse than this season, despite having the best manager in Europe!
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 19, 2016 8:27 am wrote:Being out of the Europa League next season is probably on balance a good thing, I know it's a route into the CL but you have to play the equivalent of half a seasons worth of games to get to the final (17 or 18 matches) and we just haven't got the depth of squad to cope with that sort of workload atm.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the closest we've come to winning the league in the last quarter of a century was when we didn't have European football to contend with so if there's any crumb of comfort we can take from last nights defeat it's that Jurgen has an opportunity next season to really concentrate on the league.
I don't care what anyone says our European exploits have definately affected our league form so as far as I'm concerned it's goodbye and good riddance to that Thursday/Sunday graveyard shift and those 5 hour flights to the middle of nowhere to play brzyzxqz rovers too (not to mention those prem starting XI's that resemble U21 sides).
It might not feel like it now but in time these 2 finals will be looked upon as positives on Jurgen's CV in pretty much the same way as our 2007 CL final loss to Milan and Europa League semi final defeat to Atletico are often used (in conjunction with his trophy wins) to extoll the virtues of Rafa.
andy_g » Thu May 19, 2016 8:39 am wrote:i'm not going to hang any of the blame on the match officials. i don't think any of the penalty shouts were stonewall and i'd have been pretty upset if any of them had been given against us if the boot had been on the other foot.
for me the game swung on two moments. firstly, after the first goal (which was absolutely wonderful skill from sturridge) they were shaken. had sturridge then not instinctively stuck his leg out the second goal would have stood and going into half time everything is different. secondly, moreno (again) made a woeful error to gift them the equaliser. we go in at half time 2-0 and the game is ours. 20 seconds after half time its 1-1, they get their tails up and we get too nervous.
i'm totally gutted, of course. not just that we lost, but that we have not just no champions league next season but no european football at all. looking at the bright side though... last time we had no european football all season we came within a whisker of winning the league.
Klopptomaniac » Thu May 19, 2016 8:53 am wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu May 19, 2016 8:27 am wrote:Being out of the Europa League next season is probably on balance a good thing, I know it's a route into the CL but you have to play the equivalent of half a seasons worth of games to get to the final (17 or 18 matches) and we just haven't got the depth of squad to cope with that sort of workload atm.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the closest we've come to winning the league in the last quarter of a century was when we didn't have European football to contend with so if there's any crumb of comfort we can take from last nights defeat it's that Jurgen has an opportunity next season to really concentrate on the league.
I don't care what anyone says our European exploits have definately affected our league form so as far as I'm concerned it's goodbye and good riddance to that Thursday/Sunday graveyard shift and those 5 hour flights to the middle of nowhere to play brzyzxqz rovers too (not to mention those prem starting XI's that resemble U21 sides).
It might not feel like it now but in time these 2 finals will be looked upon as positives on Jurgen's CV in pretty much the same way as our 2007 CL final loss to Milan and Europa League semi final defeat to Atletico are often used (in conjunction with his trophy wins) to extoll the virtues of Rafa.
I agree. Right now no European football at all feels like a kick in the nuts but once we watch the other sides struggle to manage it we'll take solace in the fact we don't have to do it
Jurgen has been saying all season Thursday to Sunday isn't an issue but in a recent conference he said it's not easy getting off a plane at 4am on Friday to play a game on Sunday so he's acknowledged that it's a logistical nightmare
63 games in a season is a lot for any side, we've just dodged 20% of that as far as I'm concerned - I wouldn't look too much at the league position, we've sacrificed some league places to focus on winning this. It makes for poor reading but I'm sure next season will be a much better reflection of what we can achieve under Klopp
We still have Klopp, we're still the greatest club in the world
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