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The Ox in the box!

[Santa]

Someone who wants to play for the red shirt and choose football over money. #respect

[redshade]

So where is he going to play??

More of a Lallana role or Salah/Mane?

Just wondering will we ever fit in Salah, Mane, Couts, Firmy, Lallana and Ox together.
Unless we have Lallana playing deep with Hendo.

[UvS xR4GEx]

I think his 9 league goals in 6 years at Arsenal is a worrying stat for a player that's going to be playing in a attacking role for us.

That part of his game needs massively improving.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

So where is he going to play??

More of a Lallana role or Salah/Mane?

Just wondering will we ever fit in Salah, Mane, Couts, Firmy, Lallana and Ox together.
Unless we have Lallana playing deep with Hendo.

We started last season full of energy but by the time Christmas came around our pressing game was pretty much none existent, by Easter our players were crawling around the pitch on their hands and knee's. And that was with no European football to contend with either. If we are going to play with the type of intensity we showed last Sunday week in week out for 9 solid months then we are going to need a deep squad.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I think his 9 league goals in 6 years at Arsenal is a worrying stat for a player that's going to be playing in a attacking role for us.

That part of his game needs massively improving.

I think that total is probably down to how Arsenal deployed him because any time I've seen him for England he looks like he's got goals in him. Its not as if he has got a weak shot like Sterling, OC can strike a ball.
I think he'll almost certainly improve that goal scoring record here.

[eds]

A panic buy that encapsulates the mediocrity surrounding our owners and execs.

Not good enough and what will obviously be a waste of a staggering 40m! Still don't know who the f**k is responsible for sanctioning this mess.

The comments on this forum praising him and being positive about his arrival borders between idiocy and sheer lunacy.

A lot of disappointed supporters across the world after another miserable transfer window. Salah the only real good news. Going into the season with 2 recognizable CBs and one semi competent back-up is just criminal!

[maguskwt]

A panic buy that encapsulates the mediocrity surrounding our owners and execs.

Not good enough and what will obviously be a waste of a staggering 40m! Still don't know who the f**k is responsible for sanctioning this mess.

The comments on this forum praising him and being positive about his arrival borders between idiocy and sheer lunacy.

A lot of disappointed supporters across the world after another miserable transfer window. Salah the only real good news. Going into the season with 2 recognizable CBs and one semi competent back-up is just criminal!

Mate... you starting to approach the algymoon territory
But I do agree with you that it is nit a good window for us... at best average. Coutinho may not be going, but he is already unsettled. Once again we have to rely on Klopp squeezing the blood out of the rock. Turning the likes of Moreno, Gomez, Lovren, Can, Henderson into decent players.

[Santa]

A panic buy that encapsulates the mediocrity surrounding our owners and execs.

Not good enough and what will obviously be a waste of a staggering 40m! Still don't know who the f**k is responsible for sanctioning this mess.

The comments on this forum praising him and being positive about his arrival borders between idiocy and sheer lunacy.

A lot of disappointed supporters across the world after another miserable transfer window. Salah the only real good news. Going into the season with 2 recognizable CBs and one semi competent back-up is just criminal!

Yeah...Klopp, Conti and Wegner must all be half blind and approaching senile if they wanted and fighting for him to be in their teams. So can we do better than AOC? Probably not for this kind of money and if we were to splash out we probably couldn't pry them away from their team atm.

Not having a back up plan for VVD is just nuts and could ended up costing us big time.

Written off Coutinho already...Klopp must already have alternate plans to approach the season with a sulking Philippe which is why he wanted Lemar.

Good to know that we are now in the market mixing it with the likes of Barca, Chelsea, Citeh, PSG and the rest for the best players out there...definitely a couple of steps forward. Look at the bright side and keep up the hope rather than be so dissapointed

[eds]

Yeah...Klopp, Conti and Wegner must all be half blind and approaching senile if they wanted and fighting for him to be in their teams.

Not sure why you rate Wenger, as he lost the plot a long time ago and can (ironically) be considered to be senile. 

Conte on the other hand has let Matic go and wasted 35m on Drinkwater who is just as mediocre as Oxlande. Big mistake but the only difference is they have Kante, Fabregas and now Bakayoko in their squad (arguably a LOT better than Henderson, Gini and Can) so they probably wouldn't care on who warms the bench as long as they can be semi-reliable. With our squad we simply don't have that luxury.

So can we do better than AOC? Probably not for this kind of money and if we were to splash out we probably couldn't pry them away from their team atm.

Can we find a player better than Oxlande for 40m? Are you seriously asking this? Of course we can, if we had better owners who employed better execs, who had better scouts we definitely could. But it seems that this concept seems to have escaped you.

Not having a back up plan for VVD is just nuts and could ended up costing us big time.

Written off Coutinho already...Klopp must already have alternate plans to approach the season with a sulking Philippe which is why he wanted Lemar.

Glad you agree on the other things I was ranting on about, if only you could put 1 and 1 together and realise that wasting 40m on a player we don't necessarily need could have been used to bring in an actual CB during the transfer window. 

Good to know that we are now in the market mixing it with the likes of Barca, Chelsea, Citeh, PSG and the rest for the best players out there...definitely a couple of steps forward. Look at the bright side and keep up the hope rather than be so dissapointed

Sorry remind me which players we were able to "steal" from the likes Barca, Chelsea, City, PSG again?  Oh right no one     

[Kukilon]

Just a waste of money but I hope I'm wrong. 40 million quid for a player that is not even a starter. He seems to want to be here though but who wouldn't want to leave Arsenal?

[Ponno7]

Just when LFC needed a quality centre half (something that has been needed for years), they sign a 2nd hand winger who is no better than is at the club already...poor planning. Maybe LFC should sign the Southampton scouting team, as they seem to sign players everyone wants.

[Doeboy]

Hope he does well but I don't know what he brings to the table. Don't see him as a player who helps take us up another level. He sure as hell doesn't get into our forward line as a starter. Even in central midfield, he's up against Can, Wijnaldum, Hendo (and Keita next year). He was struggling to get into Arsenal's central midfield which is *****, so he has one hell of a fight on his hands at us imo. Unless Klopp works with him and he really pushes on and develops into something develop special, I think he may struggle at us for game time. Not sure he is going to be happy just filling in here and there.

It's a fair argument that he strengthens the squad but how long before he starts getting itchy feet because he isn't getting enough game time at us?

One thing is for sure, he isn't going to cut it at us if he i the same player he was at Arsenal so here's hoping Klopp can work his magic on him and take him a couple of notches up

[aCe']

Hes a backup option. Given the needs of the squad and the price tag and his contract situation at Arsenal the whole deal doesnt look great.

That said, he isnt as bad a player as people make him out to be. He has a limited ceiling imo to his development but he'll come in and do a Milner type of job imo.

I've never been a fan of buying players for the sake of it. You look at most of the top clubs that are trying to build sides to compete and the focus is always on bringing in players for the starting 11 and demoting underperformers to the bench. We had a few positions we could have done that with, but instead we went out and got Ox. Time will tell how this turns out.

[Klopptomaniac]

Hes a backup option. Given the needs of the squad and the price tag and his contract situation at Arsenal the whole deal doesnt look great.

That said, he isnt as bad a player as people make him out to be. He has a limited ceiling imo to his development but he'll come in and do a Milner type of job imo.

I've never been a fan of buying players for the sake of it. You look at most of the top clubs that are trying to build sides to compete and the focus is always on bringing in players for the starting 11 and demoting underperformers to the bench. We had a few positions we could have done that with, but instead we went out and got Ox. Time will tell how this turns out.

For all intents and purposes Klopp made noises to indicate he's sought after AOC for a while.

He's went to Arsenal and done as much as he can, if he has a ceiling to break he was never going to achieve it following in the footsteps of Theo Walcott and Aaron Ramsey. Wenger seems to be able to make players capable and not push them any further, hopefully Klopp can tap into the potential AOC showed early in his career at Arsenal/early days at Southampton.